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felis_ultharus ([personal profile] felis_ultharus) wrote2006-05-26 12:51 pm

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Life

I thought I was on the mend, but I had to come home dizzy from work today. It was still too soon after the surgery. I hope I'm not coming down with a fever (my doctor was worried).

Politics

I flew off the handle yesterday when I discovered that hole in the government records. Turns out it's not something Harper's been plotting, but a procedural void. All four parties are responsible -- I don't think they even realize that their votes aren't being recorded in some circumstances.

I'm going to present an emergency motion to the NDP's convention in September. This procedural hole is fairly easy to fix, as soon as politicians notice the hole is there.

Even if Harper isn't responsible for the hole in the records, with his attacks on the press right now, we need accurate government records to keep track of what all the parties are doing. This is the worst time to have gaps in the records, and so far there's been a gap for every single vote this year on a government bill.

General Geekery

Everyone who's ever seen Neon Genesis Evangelion is actually required to go here. Yes, that's the law. I checked.

I'd issue a spoiler warning for everyone elese, but I think they'd all just be lost.

I love Evangelion. But it is really pretentious. I think I'd hate it as a book. Too James Joyce.

Maybe if Finnegan's Wake was done as an anime, it would be more enjoyable. If Joyce had giant cyborgs, badly-done quantum mechanics, and homoerotic subtext, I'd like him more.

[identity profile] seal7.livejournal.com 2006-05-28 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhh okay. Well I've seen the anime first, then tried to pick up the manga because I liked it so much, but found I just couldn't get the same feeling from it. There are only a tiny couple of mangas I really really enjoy anyhow, and only one I actively prefer over the anime (that would be X/1999, of course).

And hah, yeah that makes a lot of sense.
Looks like they cut it down a lot in the anime. As far as I remember, Daisuke's mother only ever notices Satoshi once, and that's no big deal. Most of the interaction with innuendo happens in the first few episodes, then Satoshi leaves for a long time because he feels he's not in proper control of himself (and because Krad went after Daisuke); a lot of it is also accounted to the fact that he chases after Dark so passionately.
Daisuke seems to understand the innuendo but he cares very little, just like you said.
There's a scene at the very end where Satoshi flirts with Risa, and it's portrayed as a new lighthearted attitude that is *the* solution to all his problems with selfhate and depression etc, while his relationship with Daisuke seems to have turned into a mutual friendship and nothing else.

Right it's not really a rabbit, but I fail to find any other description :P Mokona-ish thing works too. It's really cute anyhow.
I've seen subtitled, noticed the Daisuki of course. There was a whole episode about that with all consequences. ^_^

[identity profile] yumemisama.livejournal.com 2006-05-28 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha -- it sounds like they skipped over most of the Satoshi and Daisuke stuff, which actually I can understand in the interest of making it a more coherent story for a television show. There aren't any arcs in the manga that don't involve Satoshi somehow, and while Satoshi nurses a seething hatred for Dark, he will go out of his way to make sure nothing happens to Daisuke. A couple of times he actually pits himself against Krad to keep Daisuke safe, which is not terribly good for his mental health.

Emiko is *very* aware that Daisuke keeps talking to the Hiwatari boy at school and periodically harangues him over it. Daisuke ignores her with the serenity that only Daisuke can muster. One thing I suspect they did differently in the anime is that in the manga, both boys learn about each other very early on and there's an unspoken agreement to keep it out of their non-phantom-robbery lives. Daisuke drags Satoshi home with him, once, and I think even shows him the vault of artwork. (Emiko, needless to say, flips out and only the efforts of Daisuke's father keep her from personally rampaging down there and tossing Satoshi out on his ear.) While I do agree with you that it's technically a 'magical boy' series, almost all of the 'secret identity' angst comes from Daisuke and Dark trying to keep things straight with the girls, and not avoiding his best enemy, which is sort of an unexpected touch.

Besides which, the interplay between Daisuke and Satoshi keeps me entertained with trying to figure out what exactly would happen if Satoshi were in love with him. The kaitou curse has something to do with the Niwa falling in love and the object of his affections knowing about Dark, but so far as I know, it's always been a girl before, and never a Hikari. Daisuke wouldn't dare ask his mother either; she'd explode. ^_^;;

[identity profile] seal7.livejournal.com 2006-05-28 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Well Satoshi plays a major role in the beginning and then again at the end. But if that's so, boo on them for cutting down on it -_-
In the anime they portray it more as though he went against Krad because he doesn't want Krad to have his body (which is also not good for his mental health). Later on we also learn that Krad completely wants to take him over and never give his body back, so it makes sense.
The home-dragging incident is kept in, but I can't really remember if he shows him the basement.
You're for the most part right, just that after they learn about it, you always feel it sort of hanging over their interaction from then on, but they don't talk about it.
We also learn very early in the series that Dark/Krad coming out (ie showing themselves, taking the body over) happens when their counterparts get overwhelmed with feelings (for the one they love). Which is why his mother always shows Daisuke a picture of Risa when he refuses to go stealing, and Krad forcibly comes out when Satoshi meets Daisuke, though it's always a much bigger struggle.
Towards the end it seems to become more and more independent from that, or rather, at least Daisuke learns how to induce/control it better.
I'm not sure how clear cut Daisuke's romance life is in the manga, but in the anime it gets absolutely settled, in a satisfying way (I can't remember how many OMG THANKGOD I uttered), and all throughout it never seems possible that it might turn out to be Satoshi.

But yeah >_> his mom would explode. Which deviates her from the common fangirl, because the common fangirl would be all OMG SQUEE HOW CUTE.

[identity profile] felis-ultharus.livejournal.com 2006-05-28 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Steps back and listens to the show, because I have no idea who these people are or these series are about ^_^

[identity profile] seal7.livejournal.com 2006-05-28 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That's good, because then the massive spoilering-ness we have committed here doesn't mean anything :P

[identity profile] felis-ultharus.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
:p

Without a context, it's all going in one eye and out the other.

[identity profile] yumemisama.livejournal.com 2006-05-28 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Glad we're livening up your day! I have this unhealthy tendency to sit down and psychoanalyze people who do not actually exist. Ordinarily I keep it to myself, but occasionally I find someone like-minded and, well... if I don't clear out my Trillian logs periodically I wind up scratching my head and wondering where that 75MB of disk space went to. Really.

I am entertained and a little bit scared to note that if you Google for 'Yumemisama' most of my fanfic is still floating around out there in intarweb-land. It'll probably also hit some of my miscellaneous contributions to the web, like helping N-chan with a small bit of her Please Save My Earth opus, and writing up an etymological explanation of the term 'yaoi' for CFAN that really ought to have been a quarter the size, but if you'll notice, I'm not very good at shutting up. ^^;;; So far as I know, I'm still the only Yumemisama (and the variants YumemiSama and Yumemi-sama) that comes up in English. I think I'm occasionally credited as Yumemichan, but I'm less sure about being the only one of those.

I risk hideous embarrassment by telling you all this, because I haven't released any fanfic into the wild for a couple of years now, and if I read it back over I would probably cringe and die. I am not claiming to be a better author nowadays -- just better at recognizing bad ones. ^^;;;

[identity profile] felis-ultharus.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"Glad we're livening up your day! I have this unhealthy tendency to sit down and psychoanalyze people who do not actually exist."

I'm an English major. If I do become a professor, I'll be doing that for a living ^_^

And I have quite a few friends who write fanfics of various sorts.

[identity profile] yumemisama.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
My BA is in sociology. Loved getting it, but it's totally useless for doing things like, oh, feeding myself. My minors were Japanese and linguistics, which are likewise completely useless for getting a job in the American Southwest. I'd do better if my Spanish didn't suck.

Current BS program is Electronic Media, which will in theory qualify me to be a button-pressing monkey for a television or radio station/production facility, thus meaning I can eat when I get into grad school.

My grand life plan is to stay at a university until they quit charging me to be here and start paying me instead. I was actually looking at school in Montréal at one point, on the basis that my country has actually been embarrassing me more than my family has, these past few years, and I speak pretty reasonable Canadian French, so I wouldn't, you know, die. I'm not sure I have job skills the Canadian government would like, however, which means I don't have any idea of my odds of getting the boot once I have a PhD. I loathe moving and I would hate to have to put down on my résumé something like, "Was asked to leave the country as they already had a surfeit of smartasses."